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starbucks brews up a bold campaign to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff. details are coming up next. you can never have too much money and a damn good cup of joe. ♪ . ♪ . adam: not so beautiful if you're caught in a blizzard hitting part of the country but that's another story. time for a little fun with spare change. we are joined today by fox ne contributor julie roginsky and our ownennis kneale. first up, if you love country, i don't know if you guys are starbks people -- >> i am. adam: dennis are you starbucks? too bitter. >> you're too sweet. adam: starbucks wants to send a message to lawmakers, notice i ignored that one. message to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. they're using coffee cups to do the job. the ceo at starbucks is urging starbucks workers and employees in the washington, d.c. area to write on the cups, come together, come together right now. i guess quoting the beatles. thursday and friday. dennis, what do you think?. >> that should fix it. that's all we needed. either conjures up very old beatles cliche or elusive quest in the bed
starbucks brews up a bold campaign to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff. details are coming up next. you can never have too much money and a damn good cup of joe. ♪ . ♪ . adam: not so beautiful if you're caught in a blizzard hitting part of the country but that's another story. time for a little fun with spare change. we are joined today by fox ne contributor julie roginsky and our ownennis kneale. first up, if you love country, i don't know if you guys are starbks people -- >> i...
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it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if they reached that. but trying to protect the middle class. so officials here haven't seen it yet, but this is kind of today's volley in what has been this ongoing battle. house speaker john boehner has been saying the president must act and it appears the president is prepared to do that with another offer. and senate democrats would presumably be right on board with that. hopefully we will get details sometime this afternoon. then we'll see where we are. there isn't much time left. as you know, there are many people who have sorted of scaled back the breathless approach to what is a fiscal cliff and are a little bit more low key about it now. obviously, there are deadlines. but if it goes
it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if they reached that. but trying to protect the middle class. so officials here haven't seen it yet, but this is kind of today's volley in...
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president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season continues. many consumers hit the malls today to return gifts and buy what they really wanted. and this is the time many gift cards get redeemed. but for retailers, holiday sales so far have been a flop. sales in the two months leading up to christmas, rose just 0.7%, according to mastercard advisors that tracks the numbers. that's way below what the retail industry was predicting. erika miller spoke with retail expert dana telsey and began by asking what happened. >> i think there were a confluence of events, extra long season. hurricane sandy. tragedy in ct. >> none of the events out there were feel good factor events. it was all for consumer morale. >> when you look at the weakness this holiday season, how much of the blame do you put on ret
president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season continues. many consumers hit the malls today to return gifts and buy what they really wanted. and this is the time many gift cards get...
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still ahead what is preventing lawmakers from reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? can a deal get done at this point? congressman peter welch will join us with insight at 11 a.m. suddenly, she does something unexpected and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than fo
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stocks fell on those disappointing retail numbers, and more worries about getting a fiscal cliff deal in time. we'll have more on that in a moment. the dow fell almost 25 points, the nasdaq lost 22, and the s&p off six points. but more good news about housing today: home prices posted their best year-over-year growth since 2010. the closely watched s&p case- schiller index rose 4.3%, in october, beating expectations. looking at month over month performance, the 20 city index fell 0.1% from september to october. still, s&p is optimistic about housing activity in the new year. >> 2013 should be a good year for housing, we're going into the year with a whole lot of momentum, we've seen very strong housing starts, very strong construction in 2012 but even with that strength construction is still way below where it should be and we have a lot of lost ground to make up. >> susie: david blitzer also expects home prices to continue to improve through the end of next year, and he believes that rebound in prices will help the u.s. economic recovery. still ahead, the outlook for stocks in 2013,
stocks fell on those disappointing retail numbers, and more worries about getting a fiscal cliff deal in time. we'll have more on that in a moment. the dow fell almost 25 points, the nasdaq lost 22, and the s&p off six points. but more good news about housing today: home prices posted their best year-over-year growth since 2010. the closely watched s&p case- schiller index rose 4.3%, in october, beating expectations. looking at month over month performance, the 20 city index fell 0.1%...
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the senate convened today for emergency session to deal with the fiscal cliff. the house has announced plans to reconvene on sunday. both senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke a short time ago and neither sounds hopeful of fiscal cliff deal will be made before the deadline. so at this point is there any chance the united states can avoid taking a fiscal cliff dive? joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very simply, sir, we appreciate you being here but is harry reid right? are we going off the cliff? >> well, adam i hope he is not right. at this point president obama indicated he is going to call and talk to our leader, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell and make a proposal. we're very interested to see what that proposal is. we put revenues on the table. there needs to be some savings. and i believe we can get a deal so let's go. adam: what will the do look like? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 2
the senate convened today for emergency session to deal with the fiscal cliff. the house has announced plans to reconvene on sunday. both senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke a short time ago and neither sounds hopeful of fiscal cliff deal will be made before the deadline. so at this point is there any chance the united states can avoid taking a fiscal cliff dive? joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very...
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the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the politicians, i think they're pursuing their best strategy right now and that leads us toward that cliff. unless something changes in the next couple of days, most folks now believe that any fix will happen after january 1st. >> the house gop leadership put out a statement yesterday. i want to read part of it for you. it says in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. if the senate will not approve, and send them to the presid
the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's...
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that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the delaware on a bitter christmas night 1776 before going on to defeat the british in two major battles, that's sacrifice. i, for one, never understood how in good conscious any of these politicians would think about leaving town with so much riding on this cliff hanger? shouldn't they get their work done before they leave town for a break? that's what's expected for most working americans but then again washington politicians have rules of their own. people whose salaries that we pay are called public servants. meaning they verve us. not the other way around. we don't work to make their lives better. they are supposed t
that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the...
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no fiscal cliff. >> we have to work it out. we are hopeful we can get that done.sa eric: speaker john boehner came up with $800 billion, saying it is all mine. that doesn't seem like a fair negotiation. w >> the problem is that the speaker has indicated before weo broke that he had votes, his plan be. the speaker said i have the votes. we were on the floor of the house waiting for the vote to happen, waite we did it to see e place and we t heard word theyt would be no more votes, the speaker didn't have the votes. i talked to a number of my colleagues, they're very upset their college who did not support the speaker. s eric: fair enough, they made a mistake. escobar to what plan they actually was. actually was. schumer plan but said tax people making over a d million dollars. it is basically in essence that plan all of a sudden they don't. want that one either. if you pass this thing, we will not move. >> during the campaign it was $250,000. it was hiss position. he showed a willingness to move. the speaker to his credit wouldn
no fiscal cliff. >> we have to work it out. we are hopeful we can get that done.sa eric: speaker john boehner came up with $800 billion, saying it is all mine. that doesn't seem like a fair negotiation. w >> the problem is that the speaker has indicated before weo broke that he had votes, his plan be. the speaker said i have the votes. we were on the floor of the house waiting for the vote to happen, waite we did it to see e place and we t heard word theyt would be no more votes,...
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the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. first from fox at 3:00, back to work in washington, d.c. with less than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go over the cliff, and that's where we're headed, mr. pr
the fiscal cliff in just five days and still no deal. the winter storm that slammed the south is now stranding thousands of travelers in the northeast and beyond. that is coming up. >>> and the russian president vladimir putin says he will sign a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. first from fox at 3:00, back to work in washington, d.c. with...
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read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal,t will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke wn. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, iut $800 billio i tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall reet journal" story before christmas t
read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his...
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. >> kelly: we've been talk being the fiscal cliff and getting a deal, the president is coming back and the senate is coming back. the house is not. house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >> juliet: yeah. >> clayton: that's news. i'll make sure i'm there. gregg: fox news alert. millions at the mercy of mother nature this morning after a massive storms slams the northeast bringing snow, rain, high winds, icy road conditions. more than 50 flights have been canceled today following the grounding of more than 1700 the day before. coming up in minutes we'll go live to anna kooiman live in scranton, pennsylvania where folks are trying to dig out from more than a foot of snow. but first, bad weather making be delaying lawmakers plans to get back to the negotiating table in washington, d.c. good morning, i'm gregg jar
. >> kelly: we've been talk being the fiscal cliff and getting a deal, the president is coming back and the senate is coming back. the house is not. house speaker john boehner staying in ohio. he says some contact, but communication is no substitute for senate action. it's all in the senate. >> juliet: all righty. log on to our web site for our after the show show because we're going to be giving you lots of gossip and secrets that you don't hear. >> kelly: really? >>...
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the clock ticking down what are the chances for the fiscal cliff deal? let's look on the bright side here. washington bureau chief, i am being facetious when i say my new year's resolution is to say fiscal quote never again, but we could get a quick fix and potentially not have to see these two word again? >> we could. sometimes things are darkest before the dawn and sometime darkest before they go completely black. it is hard to know what is the case in washington. here is how you could get a deal quickly. it would be a minimalist deal that does the bare minimum necessary to prevent the big tax increases and spending cuts that bill along with going off of the cliff. the way it could happen is if the senate decides to take the bill ridge referred to that the senate passed weeks ago that essentially continued george bush era tax breaks for everybody, took that bill and amended to suit democrats which is to say to reduce those tax rates that will be extended to $250,000 and below, tack on a couple things everybody wants to get done like extending the alter
the clock ticking down what are the chances for the fiscal cliff deal? let's look on the bright side here. washington bureau chief, i am being facetious when i say my new year's resolution is to say fiscal quote never again, but we could get a quick fix and potentially not have to see these two word again? >> we could. sometimes things are darkest before the dawn and sometime darkest before they go completely black. it is hard to know what is the case in washington. here is how you could...
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. >> a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff thought it was a certainty at the beginning of the month. today not so much. senator reid's comments and a dismal report triggering a selloff that a lot of pessimists had expected sooner than today because they didn't think the deal on the cliff would be done. the dow dropping below 13,000 for the first time today sings the beginning of this month. now negative as well for the month of december. trading at a three-week low with all 30 of the dow components in negative territory. with the dow below 13,000 the s&p is notching up its fourth straight loss trading below a 50 day moving average and also hitting a three-week low. if investors are moving out of stocks, where are they moving into? safe haven. a treasury e.t. after saving a bid after investors have a secure place to put their money. gld or gold up. gold seen as a safe haven. so it, too, is benefitting from that rush or flight to quality, flight to safety. and then of course on the heels of very modest gains in the metal itself, gold, there is strength in gold stocks as well today. the
. >> a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff thought it was a certainty at the beginning of the month. today not so much. senator reid's comments and a dismal report triggering a selloff that a lot of pessimists had expected sooner than today because they didn't think the deal on the cliff would be done. the dow dropping below 13,000 for the first time today sings the beginning of this month. now negative as well for the month of december. trading at a three-week low with all 30 of the dow...
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cliff deal done. rich edson has the latest. rich: they are considering legislation here in the senate today. president obama says he called to talk to congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, last evening. there is no progress here to report. president obama put it all on the house. >> they are operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly speaking that 250 he is discussing that would keep tax rates where they are for income amount for less than $250,000 increased those earning more. house speaker says senator reed should talk less and legislate more. senate democrats have not. they want to extend all the current tax rates and avoid some of the spending cuts. democrats are on their opening offer. they basically have not moved anywhere. there is less than a week to go. >> senator reid talking about a less than $250,000 lim
cliff deal done. rich edson has the latest. rich: they are considering legislation here in the senate today. president obama says he called to talk to congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, last evening. there is no progress here to report. president obama put it all on the house. >> they are operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought...
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the house of representatives set to reconvene on sunday in another attempt to agree on a fiscal cliff deal. amon j eamon jav everyoers has the sto. >> i'm keeping an eye on my iphone here, i just got an e-mail from a source that says there might be even further news this evening, so, waiting for a status update on that. but we did get some news today and that news, as you say, was that the house of representatives is going to be called back early. they are coming back on sunday at 6:30 p.m. what they're going to do when they get here, we don't have any idea. but we had a fascinating series of dueling press conferences, dueling floor speeches, i should say, by senate republican and democratic leaders. the republican leader, mitch mcconnell, really put the blame on democrats, but he did seem to indicate that there may be further negotiations that are ongoing here, possibly even as we speak. take a listen to mitch mcconnell earlier this afternoon. >> the truth is, we're coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republi
the house of representatives set to reconvene on sunday in another attempt to agree on a fiscal cliff deal. amon j eamon jav everyoers has the sto. >> i'm keeping an eye on my iphone here, i just got an e-mail from a source that says there might be even further news this evening, so, waiting for a status update on that. but we did get some news today and that news, as you say, was that the house of representatives is going to be called back early. they are coming back on sunday at 6:30...
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to avoid the fiscal cliff. the yen hits a two-year low against the dollar as the japanese government battles to weaken deflation and the currency. >>> and shares in toyota end higher after the u.s. settles a class action lawsuit for $1 billion. >>> and here is a look at today's other top stories. new japanese prime minister shinzo abe has vowed to battle deflation in the strong yen. the 58-year-old has promised aaggressive monetary easying by the bank of japan. meanwhile, the bank of japan was issues. one option considered was an open-ended commitment to buy ass assets. customers brought the case against toyota, claiming certain models accelerated unintention equally. 16 million vehicles are covered by this action, including popular models like the camry and toyota. toyota shares were rallying on the news, up about 1.3% in trade today. >>> the season of good wills has seemed to pass tech firms by. sang sung is seeking the bail of exports of ericsson products. the action follows a suit and similar blames just ke
to avoid the fiscal cliff. the yen hits a two-year low against the dollar as the japanese government battles to weaken deflation and the currency. >>> and shares in toyota end higher after the u.s. settles a class action lawsuit for $1 billion. >>> and here is a look at today's other top stories. new japanese prime minister shinzo abe has vowed to battle deflation in the strong yen. the 58-year-old has promised aaggressive monetary easying by the bank of japan. meanwhile, the...
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the bottom line is even if we deal with the fiscal cliff in the next few days and avert that. there is another crisis with the debt ceiling looming in under two months, harris. big deal. >> harris: i know we have been talking about the weather. this too is is a perfect storm. ed henry, thank you. first time we are hearing. caught in the middle of a deadly trap. he was there when investigators say ex-con lured into ambush and shot them. what he says he heard when the bullets started to fly. stay close. rd from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the
the bottom line is even if we deal with the fiscal cliff in the next few days and avert that. there is another crisis with the debt ceiling looming in under two months, harris. big deal. >> harris: i know we have been talking about the weather. this too is is a perfect storm. ed henry, thank you. first time we are hearing. caught in the middle of a deadly trap. he was there when investigators say ex-con lured into ambush and shot them. what he says he heard when the bullets started to...
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no fiscal cliff dealing in sight. now we are talking about hitting the debt ceiling on december 31. what are the top trades for 2013? cnbc contributor michael farr. good to see you. great to have you here. >> thanks, michelle. wonderful to be with you. >> have you heard about what timothy geithner said tonight? >> you are way better looking than kudlow. i know you heard that. this is a much better screen to look at from our glide flattery will get you everywhere. did you hear secretary geithner sent out a note saying that -- letter, official letter saying we are going to hit the debt ceiling monday. lee business days notice. >> perfect. >> what will that do to the markets tomorrow? >> you and i talked about this is a couple of years ago when we hit hit it in july and i was dead wrong. i was entirely dead wrong. i thought congress would make sure we wouldn't lose our aaa debt rate. >> and we did. >> and -- yeah. i figured certainly logically that yields would go up on bonds. and that the stock market would fall and just the opposite happening. what happen this time to the markets sti
no fiscal cliff dealing in sight. now we are talking about hitting the debt ceiling on december 31. what are the top trades for 2013? cnbc contributor michael farr. good to see you. great to have you here. >> thanks, michelle. wonderful to be with you. >> have you heard about what timothy geithner said tonight? >> you are way better looking than kudlow. i know you heard that. this is a much better screen to look at from our glide flattery will get you everywhere. did you hear...
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the fiscal cliff is falling into the hands of the senate after the house walks away with no deal. can the senate do any better? connecticut senator richard blumenthal is with us at the top of the hour plus the airline pilot caught on tape ripping his bosses as' poll jizs to passengers. you're going to want to hear this and probably applaud. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. satisfaction guaranteed meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to t
the fiscal cliff is falling into the hands of the senate after the house walks away with no deal. can the senate do any better? connecticut senator richard blumenthal is with us at the top of the hour plus the airline pilot caught on tape ripping his bosses as' poll jizs to passengers. you're going to want to hear this and probably applaud. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make...
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on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 8 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family vacation. we learned from the white house that the president had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make d
on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 8 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family...
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some members of congress admit they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they
some members of congress admit they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to...
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that they should not stand in the way of a last minute deal on the fiscal cliff, democrats demanding higher tax rates on the so-called wealthy. joining us now is former investment banker carol roth. a, it seems like a total standoff and b, seems like we're headed over that cliff, it looks like it. here is the question for you, carol, if we go over the that cliff what happens to the markets? >> well, stuart, i think if we go over the cliff, the markets are going to react negatively, they reacted negatively the last time we revisited the debt ceiling for tarp, so, i don't think that the markets are going to be particularly happy, but i don't know that it's necessarily for the right reasonss i to think that we're going to get a deal here, but i think it's going to end up happening late january, maybe middle of january, but at the end. day, stuart, it doesn't solve any of our problems. stuart: i agree, i agree. >> and i'm so frustrated that we're 13 months in, we've had 13 months to figure it out and we're at the 11th hour. stuart: everybody is. the mood of the country, furious nothing i
that they should not stand in the way of a last minute deal on the fiscal cliff, democrats demanding higher tax rates on the so-called wealthy. joining us now is former investment banker carol roth. a, it seems like a total standoff and b, seems like we're headed over that cliff, it looks like it. here is the question for you, carol, if we go over the that cliff what happens to the markets? >> well, stuart, i think if we go over the cliff, the markets are going to react negatively, they...
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if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left as far as businesses also deal with their own tax hikes. >> you are going to see less money in your paycheck. >> the government has to bite the bullet with $1.2 trillion in spending cuts. more than half of that is to the defense budget. >> they say families may need austerity calculation before making big purchases. look at the money you have and the money you need in the future to decide if you need the next big picture. doug? >> doug: thank you, molly. residents of
if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial...
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heather: more and more people are saying this fiscal cliff deal isn't going to happen pause the two sides are too far apart and there simply isn't enough time yet. mark, i will begin with you, what happens if we go over the cliff? what will americans experience? >> well i think we are going to go over the cliff. quite frankly i think it is a good thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all the leverage. after january 1st the leverage shifts to the gop. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table fr
heather: more and more people are saying this fiscal cliff deal isn't going to happen pause the two sides are too far apart and there simply isn't enough time yet. mark, i will begin with you, what happens if we go over the cliff? what will americans experience? >> well i think we are going to go over the cliff. quite frankly i think it is a good thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all...
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president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
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he's heading back to washington and hopes to reach a deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. we've all been talking about it. but with just a few days to go, what happens if we do fall off that cliff? doug stand big in washington right now with what could happen if a deal isn't reached. doug? >> good morning. you're right, we're going to have some of the big players back here in washington today. a message for any of them, it may be coming from starbucks. if you order a coffee anywhere in the dc area right now, they're going to write the message, come together, kind of an urgent plea for the president and members of congress to come up with a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. as far as we know, there is not a starbucks on board air force one. and that's exactly where president obama is right now. slowly making his way to issue with a wash. giving him time to make his next move. congress will be back in session as well. this is the first time since 1970 that a house of congress -- in this case the senate -- conducted legislative business in the week between christm new. doesn't
he's heading back to washington and hopes to reach a deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. we've all been talking about it. but with just a few days to go, what happens if we do fall off that cliff? doug stand big in washington right now with what could happen if a deal isn't reached. doug? >> good morning. you're right, we're going to have some of the big players back here in washington today. a message for any of them, it may be coming from starbucks. if you order a coffee anywhere in the...
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. >>> in case you're keeping score, only three days to go until we hit the fiscal cliff. no deal yet but we're getting lots of mixed messages. >> that's a good way to put it. >> mixed messages around washington today with some animosi animosity, but here's what senate majority leader harry reid had to say just a little while ago. listen. >> i say to the speaker take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation ahead of your own fate as speaker of the house. millions of middle class families are nervously watching, waiting and counting down the moment until our taxes go up. >> well, senator kay bailey hutchison is republican from texas, first elected back in 1993 and served in leadership positions and been an outspoken nor to the budget and defense. senator, great to have you with us here. >> we sure are going to miss you, one of the great group of moderates. >> maybe you're relieved to be leaving at this point. >> thinking of new year's eve here in washington and thinking, you know, this is the time to exit. >> go out while things get a little
. >>> in case you're keeping score, only three days to go until we hit the fiscal cliff. no deal yet but we're getting lots of mixed messages. >> that's a good way to put it. >> mixed messages around washington today with some animosi animosity, but here's what senate majority leader harry reid had to say just a little while ago. listen. >> i say to the speaker take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation ahead of your own fate as...
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teetering off the "fiscal cliff." can a deal be reached by the new year? >> plus, an explosive discovery in oakland. what one man found while cleaning out his basement. you won't believe it. >> and breaking news out of the east bay. an officer-involved shooting has roads blocked in one neighborhood and we're just moments away from a police update. ,,,,,, look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start streaming six ways to sunday. you'd get knocked off. and sometimes, it took a minute to download a song. that's sixty seconds, for crying out loud. we know how long a minute is! sitting, waiting for an album to download. i still have back problems. you're only 14 and a half. he doesn't have back problems. you kids have got it too good if you ask me. [ male announcer ] now u-verse high speed internet has more speed options, reliability and ways to connect. rethink possible. what happened? me and jason came back with drinks and all 20 nuggets were gone. we got nugged. there was a nugging. this g
teetering off the "fiscal cliff." can a deal be reached by the new year? >> plus, an explosive discovery in oakland. what one man found while cleaning out his basement. you won't believe it. >> and breaking news out of the east bay. an officer-involved shooting has roads blocked in one neighborhood and we're just moments away from a police update. ,,,,,, look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start...
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his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding that fiscal cliff. here's what will happen if no deal is reached. the economy could fall into a recession. that's been widely reported. the congressional budget office forecasts a drop of .5% in the real gross domestic product and a 9.1% unemployment rate by the end of next year. markets in the u.s. and around the world could take a hit. right now the dow is down almost 100 points. no santa clauz rally this year. managing director of the boston consulting group joins me from chicago. great to see you. happy holidays. let's talk about the effect on the economy. i t
his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding...
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fiscal cliff deal. meantime, treasury warns the government will hit its legal borrowing limit by monday. it's thursday, december 27th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen. becky continues to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising to at least consider any bill that the upper chamber produces. senate majority leader harry reid now expected to base any legislation on a bill passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay h
fiscal cliff deal. meantime, treasury warns the government will hit its legal borrowing limit by monday. it's thursday, december 27th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen. becky continues to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising...
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timtime to take down the verbal warfare and cut a deal sparing the fallout of the fiscal cliff. gerri: can we get anything with any meaning before the end of the year? >> not get your hopes up on a big deal on the debt. not too many tax increases, some will be in there. avoiding the sequester, the spending cuts, that is the best thing that could happen at this point and i'm pretty optimistic person, i get up every morning thinking good things will happen but this is causing me to drink every night so i did not know if i will get there or not. gerri: you glass half-full kind of guy. i hope your champagne glasses more than half full on new year's. have a good one. while the chances of lawmakers reaching a deal seemed to be slim to none, you'll be glad to know some state lawmakers will% be warned though much more productive. here are some of our favorites. let's start with illinois. starting in 2013 and new law gives motorcyclists be okay to run red lights. leave it or not. after complaints from cyclist who say light sensors don't see the cycles. and the okay for computer-driven ca
timtime to take down the verbal warfare and cut a deal sparing the fallout of the fiscal cliff. gerri: can we get anything with any meaning before the end of the year? >> not get your hopes up on a big deal on the debt. not too many tax increases, some will be in there. avoiding the sequester, the spending cuts, that is the best thing that could happen at this point and i'm pretty optimistic person, i get up every morning thinking good things will happen but this is causing me to drink...
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the fiscal cliff. what do you think are the dynamics operating there, including senator mcconnell's position. >> he has three choices here, he can find a couple votes to help harry reid get to 60 so they can help a small piece through. he can say, look, do it yourself, we're not going to filibuster it, so you can pass with just the majority only, and then you own all the responsibility for this. or he can simply do nothing. and at this point he's choosing the do nothing route. i don't know how long that's going to last. i think boehner gave a hint of a little openness to something in his statement he put out today. in the very end he said, we passed a bill, the senate doesn't like it, they should amend it, send it back and we will vote on it. that's a commitment from him. if the senate takes up the house bill, amends to do exactly what reid wants, then you have a commitment for boehner to vote on it. it will pass, because there are enough democrats that will meet with republicans to pass it. >> ryan gr
the fiscal cliff. what do you think are the dynamics operating there, including senator mcconnell's position. >> he has three choices here, he can find a couple votes to help harry reid get to 60 so they can help a small piece through. he can say, look, do it yourself, we're not going to filibuster it, so you can pass with just the majority only, and then you own all the responsibility for this. or he can simply do nothing. and at this point he's choosing the do nothing route. i don't...
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with fukushima daiichi -- to deal with the fiscal omq= cliff issu. retailers are doing a better job of controlling inventories, macy's and abercrombie & fitch don't have as much merchandise leftover they need to clear out.÷s+0t netflix trying if get more social, it is waiting for president obama to sign a bill passed by congress that removes restrictions on companies sharing video rental history, once it is allowed to do that netflix users will be able to share information with >m facebook that is business news live at the new york stock exchange, ellen brightman, bloomberg . >>> mike is here with a look at the forecast and our little bitty break. >> you are coming up with a lot of neat technical terms. little bitty break, like that.wy the rain. can see cloud cover starting to open up=/w, as we k down to the south from our roof cam at the embarcadero center with the lights still on, ferry building to the bay bridge, good news, no rain out of these clouds. doppler tracking waiting for anything to fall, it is not going to happen. no rain, so thin the
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to avoid the fiscal cliff is no where are in sight and time is running out. we hit the streets to show people this. this graphic shows how big a tax hit you could expect depending on your income no matter where in the country you live. for folks who could soon be forced to pay higher taxes, reality setting in. >> january 1st, that's what your taxes would go up. >> wow. >> wow. >> wow is not wow. >> well, it's going to be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000, which i don't have. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> we're living paycheck by paycheck. i have five kids and that's going to put us way down in the hole. >> i'm a single income, you've got to be kidding. >> that's a lot of money. >> we need to keep our money in our pockets to help our country first. >> that sucks. i have a lot more better things to do with that money than give it someplace else. >> taxpayers are clearly worried. it deny next guest reaction from florida republican congressman, good friend, allen west. start with the -- some news we heard about an hour ago, that the leadership was actua
to avoid the fiscal cliff is no where are in sight and time is running out. we hit the streets to show people this. this graphic shows how big a tax hit you could expect depending on your income no matter where in the country you live. for folks who could soon be forced to pay higher taxes, reality setting in. >> january 1st, that's what your taxes would go up. >> wow. >> wow. >> wow is not wow. >> well, it's going to be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000, which i...
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cliff talks. without a deal, budget cuts and tax rises will automatically start on january 1. a senior congressional reporter with the american news service "politico," says while he is doubtful they will strike a deal before next year, obama and democrats have the upper hand. >> they know that the polls are on their side, that a majority of americans would blame the republicans for the failure, and they know that -- they say president obama was just reelected on a mandate to raise taxes on the stockton% of income earners and the republican party is dead set against tax increases. -- on the top 2% of incoming earners. he wants to raise taxes on folks making more than a million dollars, but that was not enough for democrats and that was too much for lot of republicans. the republicans in the house are the ones who endangered the speaker's efforts to cut a compromise deal. the democrats know that they are the ones that have the upper hand in the fight and if we go into the new year, a new congress w
cliff talks. without a deal, budget cuts and tax rises will automatically start on january 1. a senior congressional reporter with the american news service "politico," says while he is doubtful they will strike a deal before next year, obama and democrats have the upper hand. >> they know that the polls are on their side, that a majority of americans would blame the republicans for the failure, and they know that -- they say president obama was just reelected on a mandate to...
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cliff is still there no deal has so far been reached that coupled with the fact yet again that is about to hit the ceiling could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states and patrick young says it's time to stop fueling the flames shri get kids and go america owed the world about nine hundred billion dollars now that may sound like a big number but bear in mind at the moment it's borrowing a hundred billion dollars every single month the total debt in america is roughly fifteen trillion dollars i mean that's the sort of amount of money that if you put the notes and the end you get most of the way towards mars it's an absolutely rigid mind of money and the problem we've got is you've got politicians who are still in never-never land mr obama is wanting to actually exist then the a mind of money that america can manage to borrow it's a bit like giving a drunk more vodka as i've often said and at the same time you've got the republicans who are suddenly wanting to have the local fiscal responsibility from actually having abdicated their own responsibility
cliff is still there no deal has so far been reached that coupled with the fact yet again that is about to hit the ceiling could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states and patrick young says it's time to stop fueling the flames shri get kids and go america owed the world about nine hundred billion dollars now that may sound like a big number but bear in mind at the moment it's borrowing a hundred billion dollars every single month the total debt in america...
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fiscal cliff. higher taxes will give the average american about $1,500 less to spend next year, and economists believe the $110 billion spending cuts will result in more layoffs. senator harry reid has a plan to keep taxes low for everyone making less than $250,000 a year as well as short-term spending cuts until a bigger deal can be reached. >> it is going to be a patch because in four days we can't solve everything. >> while senators try to brave the bad weather in many parts of the country in order to make it back here to washington, house leaders say they will not leave home unless the senate passes its bill first. house republicans scuttled a proposal from speaker john boehner last week, and 48% of americans say they are to blame if no deal is reached. >> both sides here have a problem with the american people, and it's why congress has an 11% job approval rating. >> frank lund says americans are fed up with gridlock in washington. >> there is no compromise, and i think that's going to grow as
fiscal cliff. higher taxes will give the average american about $1,500 less to spend next year, and economists believe the $110 billion spending cuts will result in more layoffs. senator harry reid has a plan to keep taxes low for everyone making less than $250,000 a year as well as short-term spending cuts until a bigger deal can be reached. >> it is going to be a patch because in four days we can't solve everything. >> while senators try to brave the bad weather in many parts of...
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has dropped to its lowest level in four months in december guess why the fiscal cliff is still there no deal is so far been reached that coupled with the fact yet again the debt is hitting the ceiling in the united states this could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states let's talk now to patrick young co-author of the gathering storm brown bear broadband good to see you patrick so how bad do you think it's going to get if not in january but in the first quarter of two thousand and thirteen. well the situation is an incredibly perilous i mean think about the history of american debt three decades ago america owed the world about nine hundred and it billion dollars now that may sound like a big number but bear in mind at the moment it borrowing a hundred billion dollars every single month the total debt in america is roughly fifteen trillion dollars i mean that's the sort of amount of money that if you put the notes end to end you get most of the way towards mars it's an absolutely rejects of mind of money and the problem we've got is you've got p
has dropped to its lowest level in four months in december guess why the fiscal cliff is still there no deal is so far been reached that coupled with the fact yet again the debt is hitting the ceiling in the united states this could lead to dire consequences for the global economy let alone the united states let's talk now to patrick young co-author of the gathering storm brown bear broadband good to see you patrick so how bad do you think it's going to get if not in january but in the first...
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. >>> president barack obama is hoping to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff and he left his vacation. we will look at the new offer and the concessions he is proposing. >>> let's go back outside with alex savage. >> reporter: they have finally been able to locate the problem right under where those crews are working and they have had to dig up quite a bit of sidewalk to figure out where the leak was coming from but crews say they are running a bypass around the broken line. off to the left, the people were evacuated as a precaution. everything began when neighbors reported the smell of gas in this area. people here were ordered to shelter in place in their homes for a time and early on, he was certainly going to face explosion. >> if something goes off or ignites, i am only a couple of doors down from where the leak is so it is frightening. >> the source of the leak has been found. the repair work, it will be difficult for she people to go back home and with the exception of the three homes evacuated, gas does remain on for the entire area of brentwood. brentwood sal legs savage ktvu
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>>> on the broadcast tonight, five days to go before the country could plunge off the fiscal cliff. the president and the senate back early from vacation, but still no deal in sight. with your money at stake, why can't they reach an agreement in washington? >>> extreme weather. more heavy snow and crippling delays from that massive storm with another one on the way. tonight, how will it impact the holiday weekend? >>> got milk? why the price of a gallon could more than double in the next few days. what's behind this huge potential increase? >>> and the lives they led. our annual look back at some of those we lost this year. "nightly news" begins now. >>> from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >> good evening, i'm natalie morales in for brian. just how bad is the situation in washington with only five days left before we reach the fiscal cliff? in a highly unusual move, lawmakers are being called back to work during this holiday week. but if today was any indication, it doesn't appear congressional leaders are ready to play nice,
>>> on the broadcast tonight, five days to go before the country could plunge off the fiscal cliff. the president and the senate back early from vacation, but still no deal in sight. with your money at stake, why can't they reach an agreement in washington? >>> extreme weather. more heavy snow and crippling delays from that massive storm with another one on the way. tonight, how will it impact the holiday weekend? >>> got milk? why the price of a gallon could more...
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each says the onus is on each other to cover the fiscal cliff. >> both sides hope for a deal, but hopes are fading. and some observers say the deal is more likely after the new year after the tax cuts expire. >> then they will be cutting taxes instead of voting to raise taxes. it is a small distinction, but an important one for some republicans. >> president obama spoke to congressional leaders before he left hawaii by phone yesterday. senator mcconnell says he would be happy to look for to any proposal from the president. >> economists have warned that failure to address the fiscal cliff could send our country back into recession. maryland live! casino now open 24-7. before they closed at 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. on friday and saturday. but this morning the anne arundel location , that stores for the very last time. >> they unlocked at 8:00 and there was a waiting line to get in. this is all early buzz for the 24-hour operation. before now, the casino had to close its doors, but not any more. and adult beverages here are now sold around-the-clock. >> 24 hours a day -- all day long, all
each says the onus is on each other to cover the fiscal cliff. >> both sides hope for a deal, but hopes are fading. and some observers say the deal is more likely after the new year after the tax cuts expire. >> then they will be cutting taxes instead of voting to raise taxes. it is a small distinction, but an important one for some republicans. >> president obama spoke to congressional leaders before he left hawaii by phone yesterday. senator mcconnell says he would be happy...
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there will be a deal to, quote, avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal, they should demand a solution. >> do you think it's the right idea to cave in if really the republicans do not believe this is the right thing for the best interests of the country, to go ahead and agree to having more expenditures, to not cutting any of these entitlements. this reckless spending has to come to an end at some points. we have the future and the children to think of. >> so much for a balanced approach. the bammed approach as near as i can do do exactly what i want exactly what when i want you to do it. but the reality is the house democrats will could be he -- gt enough involvements my vote will not one of them and the group of conservatives i run with will not be among the votes that vote for the so-called deal. but it will pass and we will be arguably further from a solution than we were this time last year. >> so you think a temporary fix is going to come to pass but ultimately, like you said, you and several of your colle
there will be a deal to, quote, avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal, they should demand a solution. >> do you think it's the right idea to cave in if really the republicans do not believe this is the right thing for the best interests of the country, to go ahead and agree to having more expenditures, to not cutting any of these entitlements. this reckless spending has to come to an end at some points. we have the future and the children to think of....
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or whether sequestration and the fiscal cliff occurs. >> ifill: the across-the-board cuts. why does it work that way? >> in the event no deal is made and we do have the automatic cuts known as sequestration starting in january, federal employees face job loss and in some situations-- certainly in the department of defense-- but throughout the federal government people will be furloughed, forced to take unpaid days off, anywhere from 20 to 50 days. we really don't know. it depends in part on the agency and it depends in part on how much of the remainder of the fiscal year these cuts are squished into. so it's -- that's one bad situation. and then the so-called grand bargains and deals, many of those include provisions that would cut federal retirement benefits and extend the current pay freeze for an additional three years so that federal employees would go five full years without any paid a justments. >> ifill: hugh johnson, if you were an investor or a business owner and you're watching wall street watch the fiscal cliff debate what are you telling them? are people nervous
or whether sequestration and the fiscal cliff occurs. >> ifill: the across-the-board cuts. why does it work that way? >> in the event no deal is made and we do have the automatic cuts known as sequestration starting in january, federal employees face job loss and in some situations-- certainly in the department of defense-- but throughout the federal government people will be furloughed, forced to take unpaid days off, anywhere from 20 to 50 days. we really don't know. it depends in...